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Post by Sapphire Capital on Aug 15, 2008 1:02:55 GMT 4
Creditnet Bank Internationale, Australia ? Link: www.creditnetbank.com or www.creditnetbankinternationale.comAddress: ST-52-3291275, 237/51 Robina Town Center 4230, Caledonia Australis 232/15 Albert Ave. Broadbeach, QLD, Australia c/o AMROCK Trust Company, Rue Rosseau 3, 2114-Fleurier, Switzerland c/o A.P. Unit 3, Level 10 Yin On Court, United Building, 5 Wu Kwong St. Hung Hom, Kowloon, HK No. 97 Back Street of the Shi Li He Latern City, Shi Ba Li Dian, Chao District, 100021 Beijing, China Phone: ++61-4-19393919 Fax: ++1-214-889-1007 Telex: (USA) 479326 This institution claims to be established since March 12, 1999 under the Commonwealth of Caledonia Australis, a break away Micro Nation in Australia which is neither recognized nor otherwise noted as in xistence, beside the claim of the self proclaimed “Excellency, Governor and Royal Highness Prince Neal Arthur Lyster”. The same government certified that a Merchant Banking License has been issued for this entity on December 7, 2004, claiming a registration number ST-7-1011.007, Licence # 105-02 issued by Royal Pacific Central Bank. The licence quotes a worldwide unrestricted Merchant Banking Licence to carry out merchant banking operations under the responsibility of the Chairman of the Board and an Aval of Creditnet Global Bank. The said Chairman of the Board is certified as having promised to carry out business in good conscience, integrity and fairness and all time to apply the Law of God, law of Nature and the British Constitution. The initial Governor of the Boardof the Bank is identified as Robert Bruce Gray and the Bank has to pay 0.76% of its profits to the Royal Pacific Central bank. The licence is for 5 years and has an option for renewal. Beside the Royal Highness a registrar identified as Cilla Leek has signed the licence. The bank itself identifies itself as a “ pure Sovereign Trust”. Their business is described as: providing funding, equity or joint venture participation for the development of commercial, humanitarian benevolence and infra structure projects. The bank claims to have negotiated international transactions at Corporate and Government level in agriculture, banking, construction and mining; transacted au and currency transactions; they claim to be committed to fund environmental projects for reducing gas emissions, they subscribe to the promotion of Good Will and Good Conscience. The bank claims to have an asset base which is rated AAA+ by AACRAA and that all their instruments are backed by such assets and registered in on-line databases. They claim to have stepped away from currency because of its fluctuation and are holding Gold Assets. The Bank claims that information and data is protected by English Common law and the Mercantile law of confidential contracts. They also claim to apply the Know-Your-Customer-Rules. Members of the Board are identified as: Robert B. Gray, UK Passport 761012423 Reginald E.J. Kidd (CPA),Contact: ++64-2131-1919 Chris Hollows, Contact: ++64-2723-59269 Steve Irwin, Contact: ++61-4-0711-0988 John Sitkiewics, Contact: ++61-4-0535-0535 Klaus Dreier, Swiss Passport F3414439, Contact: ++41-7-9791-5150 David Matthew, Contact: ++44-78-01053914 and Iain Naylor. For contact in China the following details are known: China: Zhao Sheng Li, Contact: ++86-130-2193-3368 and Aileen Wan Ran Contact: ++86-139-1006-3416 HK: Anita Wong Yu, contact: ++852-9483-9933 In the flow of the business the Bank has been identified as backing Amrock Trust Company, which seems to be the main outlet, hinting to a Central Swiss Federal Registry at www.zefix.admin.ch where they claim the Amrock Trust Company is registered under: CH-645.1.001.639-3. The Bank claims to transact European medium term Notes via an MTN Exchange identified as www.emtn-exchange.com. There is a company in between which identifies itself as Kingston & Royce Group, represented by Nicolaase Jansen van Rensburg using email: nick@kingstonroyce.com and claiming contact details as follows: ++1-617-934-0564, ++41-79-409-5505 and ++27-76-400-4200. This company which claims to work within the network of the Bank claims to have an account with the State Bank of Mauritius under the name K&R Wealth Management Ltd # 61026000012280. The Bank issued supposed Medium Term Notes with 7% p.a. Interest Coupons on May 15 2008, due date June 14, 2013 under # 718241625 claiming ISIN ARC710112206, for USD 100 Million; claiming to be backed by AU precious metal , payable at the counter in Switzerland at Amrock Trust Company. Warning: This institution is neither a bank, nor a trust nor an entity in itself. The license is issued by a non-entity, it is neither endorsed nor registered with the responsible jurisdiction and carries no viable assets nor legal responsibilities which are enforceable outside a fraud status. The claimed jurisdictions effectively will not back them and the registration law applying does not provide any recourse. This is not a bank!
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Post by reknab on Aug 15, 2008 5:34:16 GMT 4
And the sad part, dozen people have paid Robert B. Gray thousands of dollars for his fraudulent services. There are no less than one dozen fake MTNs currently circulating looking for a loan, hoping to place these worthless pieces of paper as collateral.
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Post by Sapphire Capital on Aug 15, 2008 21:10:18 GMT 4
The problem will not only be the loss of money for the fees and resources already paid, but also that even offering them as collateral is attempted fraud, since most judges will no believe that the supposed borrower did not know the problem. Defending this is difficult and expensive and loosing the battle can mean a long state sponsored holida.
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Post by Jimmy on Nov 21, 2008 19:50:43 GMT 4
Gentlemen, Does any of you have real proof of all that ...
I also heard about those guys, and i'd like to catch them...
Any evidence or help would be appreciate.
Jim
Please let me know and i'll send you my email for info.
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Post by Sapphire Capital on Nov 21, 2008 22:18:12 GMT 4
There is proof enough and no reason to try to do anything because the actual responsible supervisors have long standing files, that is almost all banks have warnings in their files. The reason why this is not more public is that the public discourse drowns these messages and warnings out with news from film stars etc and puts priority differently. In addition the fact that it is a difficult legal environment and these people are seen as temporary annoyance, their "marks" as people to greedy to apply common sense, tempers the handing of the files by public authorities as secondary and with the workload, there is no fast action. This may change however since they are now aggravating some authorities in Switzerland which have been know for their long reach.
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Post by Palych on Mar 28, 2009 0:05:56 GMT 4
Gentlemen, Does any of you have real proof of all that ... I also heard about those guys, and i'd like to catch them... Any evidence or help would be appreciate. Jim Please let me know and i'll send you my email for info. See my last post here forum.reserve-bank.com/viewtopic.php?t=834
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Post by sapuco on Sept 3, 2009 9:45:18 GMT 4
it is still that way, they are not acceptable even in Australia:
Bankrupt Garrett's failed takeovers
CAMERON ENGLAND, CHIEF BUSINESS REPORTER
April 20, 2007 02:15am
BANKRUPT winemaker Andrew Garrett launched ill-fated takeover bids for four of Australia's largest companies using documents Westpac believed to be worthless, court documents show. The revelations are made in a judgment on just one of several actions in various courts launched by Garrett, in which judges have spoken of a "mountain" of documents being lodged with the court and "incoherent" statements of claim.
One Federal Court judgment against Garrett details his attempts to acquire Qantas, BHP Billiton, Suncorp Metway and Foster's Group.
The judgment handed down last month dismissed his action against Westpac, which refused to honour two "sight drafts" from purported Swiss bank Creditnet Bank Internationale, for $US350 million and $US11 billion. A previous Supreme Court judgment found that Bills of Exchange from Creditnet were not legal tender. It is unclear whether the bills and the sight drafts are one and the same.
In Westpac correspondence to Garrett, quoted in the judgment, the bank says the drafts were "unusual".
In another Federal Court judgment against Garrett, also handed down recently, his statement of claim was labelled "an embarrassing document replete with grave assertions against persons and entities". In that case, which was dismissed, he was attempting to, among other actions, sue former company Foster's Wine Estates.
Garrett's legal woes began about the time of the collapse of his Braidwood group of companies in July, 2003.
The National Australia Bank, which repossessed his house, is attempting to have him declared a vexatious litigant, which would curtail his ability to lodge actions, at least in the Supreme Court.
Garrett could not be contacted yesterday.
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Post by sapuco on Sept 3, 2009 9:54:50 GMT 4
The Internet does not forget, this here is still a laugh and on the net: This is the html version of the file lah.law.officelive.com/Documents/Creditnet%20Bank%202.pdf. Google automatically generates html versions of documents as we crawl the web. Page 1 Page 2 ( à sovmiaa status bm &mn onmrnaiim ) t%S / iS Jib.rt 4v. Bi»sib«**h. QM.,4218. AuurstH CERTIFICATION OF AUTHENTICITY To: APEXBNBA KIEWTSTRAAT7. KALMTHOUT 2920, BELGIUM. Date: 16ft August 2G07 Re: CERnFICATIONOFAUTHOrnCITY For Medium Term Notes with señal numbers; 718241209,718241217,716241225,718241233,718241241,718241273, We, CredHnet Bank Internationale, herewith cerf fy with hit) responsibility, as being authentic, the herein toenailed Medium Term Notes issued on 10th day of May 2007, in accordance wtfi our banking Indenture,. Serial Number. tSIN Amount 718241209, CB7963697235 One Hundred MHion United Sates DoBars(USO$100,000,000.oo} 718241217. C87963697244 One Hundred MIBon Uniied States Dollars (USD$100,00Q,000.oo) 718241225, C87963697253 One Hundred MIBon United States Douars ÍUSD$1Q0,000,000.oq) 718241233, C87983697262 One Hundred Milton United States Dollars (USDS100,DOG,OOO.oo) 718241241, C87983697271 One Hundred Milton United Slates Dollars (USDSIOO.OOO.OOO.oo) 718241273, CS7963697307 One Hundred Milton Uniied States Douars (USD$1OOtÛO0fOOO.oo) We confirm that we placed our signatures and seals, as the fuÄy authorised Issuer on the herein identified Medium Term Note«, which have each been issued to. APEX BVBA in regards to a mercantile custom transaction of dean origin Greditnet Bank Imemattonate furthermore confirms w*h ful bank responsibiiity mat it holds good» clean, clear of encumbrance assets backing the issuance of Oie herein identified Medium Temi Notes. Additionafy, we certify tiat these Medium Term Notes ere registered on the "swiss emtn exchange* registry in Switzerland as being issued against assets for "valuable considération* as, a bankable deposit. « ft tîobert ÉjGray, IR9787] Governor and Chairman of the Board -jfe- Dr Mehmet Gökce, [320480] Central Europe - Operations Director CREDITNET BANK INTERNATIONALE source:http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:WUUlHvaekyUJ:lah.law.officelive.com/Documents/Creditnet%2520Bank%25202.pdf+Creditnet+Bank+Internationale&cd=14&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a or: lah.law.officelive.com/Documents/Creditnet%20Bank%202.pdf
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Post by Vladimir on Feb 16, 2011 10:26:57 GMT 4
Gentlemen, Does any of you have real proof of all that ... I also heard about those guys, and i'd like to catch them... Any evidence or help would be appreciate. Jim Please let me know and i'll send you my email for info.
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Post by MMM on Feb 16, 2011 10:34:32 GMT 4
Plenty available, there are reasons why they are still around, none of them any good, but state powers are very selective in using their power if they have a use for a scam
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Post by lightphoenix on Feb 17, 2011 0:50:41 GMT 4
Plenty available, there are reasons why they are still around, none of them any good, but state powers are very selective in using their power if they have a use for a scam Are you saying that state powers can -so to say - recycle a scam which is by definition illegal and make it legal? Could you please elaborate a bit more on your insight and offer some examples?
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Post by MMM on Feb 17, 2011 9:51:56 GMT 4
I have seen it multiple ways, illegal structures are hinted on by operatives and people use the idea to do the real illegal thing only to find themselves used as money channels and backdoors for undercover work or black ops or even only as sting. There are some scams out there which are used for repatriation of illegal funds for example, or do you think the billions and billions every year of drug money will not find a way into the system. It is no news that the most money laundering takes place in the US through structures which are known by the government and even partly established by them as financing source for off the books operations. There are others which are used as nets for sting operations, they come up from time to time and never really disappear even if there has been a big bust, a lot of the Somalia Bank or the Anjouan structures etc and the NZ so called international savings are monitored and every transaction which is allowed ided.
Thats as far as I go in this open part of the forum
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Post by lightphoenix on Feb 17, 2011 15:03:46 GMT 4
Thanks, MMM. I am indeed familiar with some of this and by the way the US is not the only one. The UK and special structures do the same, as well as Israel, etc.
The question remains, though, where do you draw the line in that famous twilight zone, where even governments are not in control any longer and the all thing becomes monitored ONLY by criminal organizations, who infiltrate their own people in the banking system and other levels to realize their own independent goals.
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Post by MMM on Feb 18, 2011 9:24:40 GMT 4
last couple of decades the whole area of gray has increased and indirect operations increased, very difficult to get operatives which have been out, and I mean far out there, to come back to a good old fashioned moral point of view; especially when their masters are talking morals but not operating with them.
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Post by TTT on Sept 25, 2012 23:00:04 GMT 4
Bank License & Legalities Although initially established in 2004, since 10th July, 2006 Creditnet Bank Internationale has been domiciled in Australia and thereto reinforcing its common law right to contract as a Sovereign Status Banking Organisation to additionally and lawfully chose to operate under the Federal Legislation of the Bills-Of-Exchange Act 1909 (Australia) and banking operations referred to in the amendments of the Corporation Act Australia and other Federal and Constitutional Legislations. Creditnet being a Sovereign Status Banking Organisation is NOT registered under the statutory law of the Banking Act of 1959 which is subject to a private unregistered company called “APRA” which monitors retail banks in Australia. There have been various contentions about this issue by many who do not understand the relevance and structuring of “Sovereign Status” and who try to usurp their restrictive values on others, such as trying to copy-write a word (“bank”) of the English language or even a word from another nationality without producing an international jurisdictional executive order to copy-write such a word. The founding fathers of banking, commerce, and the free-world knew these Sovereign values when they built such qualifications into the British Common Law right-to-contract that states that: No right, provision, or obligation of contract may be abridged or impaired by any officer, employer, or official of any statutory Government, including, but not limited to, any elected or any appointed official of any agency or department to the Government, including but not limited to a Legislator, Magistrate, Justice and/or Judge. © 2009 Creditnet Bank Internationale
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Post by Sapphire Capital on Sept 26, 2012 0:02:14 GMT 4
ah, the same old .... First of all, after the lengthy opening you hit the nail, "unregistered", so you agree you offer banking and financial services without registration! Refering to your "Sovereignty" is just an excuse, CreditNet Bank is not a Sovereign nor has a citizen any sovereignty to create his own financial organization when he is on the territory of a sovereign nation. The nations sovereignty supersedes and the citizen and his outlets have to follow the rules. When you reference “APRA” and use Acronyms, you have to define them first! “APRA” stands for: American Popular Revolutionary Alliance (Alianza Popular Revolucionaria Americana), a Peruvian political party Australasian Performing Right Association, a copyright collecting society Australian Professional Rodeo Association Australian Prudential Regulation Authority Apra Harbor, the main port of Guam Angkatan Perang Ratu Adil Pontifical Athenaeum Regina Apostolorum (Ateneo Pontificio Regina Apostolorum), a University in Rome I believe your Acronym means: The Australian Prudential Regulation Authority (APRA), which is a statutory authority and the prudential regulator of the Australian financial services industry. And no, they can not find your "Bank" authorization, registration etc but they have a file on CreditNet Bank as has the Australian Central Bank and others. I do not really care since every customer of CreditNet Bank can do his own due diligence but since we structure banks and non-bank financial companies with all the bells and whistles, I do feel slightly offended by the blatant playing on Sovereignty Issues. The constant issue of enforcement notices and membership in the elite club of unauthorized institutions (blacklist: www.finma.ch/e/sanktionen/unbewilligte-institute/Pages/details.aspx?orgid=16) seems to be seen as a badge of honor by CreditNet Bank Internationale.
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Post by ukipa on Sept 26, 2012 0:24:02 GMT 4
This subject has been around for a long time. Wouldn't you think someone, if any one, had successfully achieved their goal to receiving funding, using one of "CreditNet Bank" alleged bank notes, the party would be bragging by now?
As far as I know, no one has and my bet is; no one will.
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Post by Milos on Dec 5, 2013 11:41:13 GMT 4
I need KTT103 cash backed provider for 1b for collateral contact me on micmilos@gmail.com
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Post by ukipa on Dec 6, 2013 19:29:52 GMT 4
I need KTT103 cash backed provider for 1b for collateral contact me on micmilos@gmail.com You may wish to enlist the services of "CreditNet Bank"
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Post by Sapphire Capital on Dec 7, 2013 3:21:01 GMT 4
Milos a KTT 103 is in fact a SWIFT MT103 cross border straight wire transfer and here is the wrong place to ask for that.
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Post by General Investment on Jan 22, 2015 16:32:02 GMT 4
Milos please do contact me if you still need KTT-MT103 Collateral Skype: banking.financing Email: gig.ltd001@gmail.com Thanks
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Post by Tony Enriquez on Jan 22, 2015 19:23:28 GMT 4
Milos please do contact me if you still need KTT-MT103 Collateral Skype: banking.financing Email: gig.ltd001@gmail.com Thanks KTT MT103!?? Very Interesting. Which bank is still using KTT? Are they aware the automobile has been invented?
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Post by anenro on Aug 24, 2015 17:19:46 GMT 4
Abdallah, do you also deliver pizzas to people's offices? I am hungry and don't have the time to drive and get me one. Let it be known to all the members of this blog, that the poster using "P.I." as its identifier, is not the same one as "THE PRIVATE INVESTORS / P.I." (Tony Enriquez).
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Post by sky on Nov 23, 2015 20:49:38 GMT 4
i just recieve a desiness deal with this bank... i learned lots of bad new about this bank on internet, does anyone have any update info about this bank? thank you
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Post by Omar on Nov 23, 2015 23:59:20 GMT 4
Run as fast as you can
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