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Post by jon on Nov 29, 2015 23:57:19 GMT 4
Hello all:
I would like to know if:
1. This screen is real and in fact, the MTN has been transferred to the company listed there.
2. Is it true that if the provider gives that company listed there the rest of the pages (16 pages) that company would have complete control over this note? The company currently has been shown only this page so far.
Thanks in advance
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Post by niseag on Nov 30, 2015 8:47:28 GMT 4
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Post by anenro on Nov 30, 2015 15:03:57 GMT 4
This is easy.
Someone is hijacking an issued MTN note and manipulating the "alleged" BLOOMBERG screen with the MTN information and is trying to fool the recipient.
My question is: Why is not your securities house officer involved? It will take a few minutes for the officer to open the Bloomberg screen system and provide you with a copy of the real screen.
If I were you, I would simply walk away.
(Red flags on the fake Bloomberg screen shot: BG / ISIN code / Interest / Maturity 2018 and more). (The print out offered by NISEAG is the real transaction).
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jon
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Post by jon on Nov 30, 2015 15:57:34 GMT 4
Thank you both for your response/suggestions. I am very grateful. Honestly, I don't know where to even start as I am in way over my head. It is not my area of expertise and the bank officers here don't really know what to do with it and did not give any suggestions. (third world problems) Thanks once again.
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Post by congregatio on Dec 1, 2015 1:40:39 GMT 4
a word of advise when you get those offers etc, put the ISIN into Google (or any other search engine) and see whats coming out, if there is nothing the next step is Euroclear (https://my.euroclear.com/en/login.html#redirect=0) (yes its free) and search for the ISIN, if both do not show a complete match forget about it. The way I see it there are warning signs on the print out you have already when it identifies itself as a Bankguarantee. In addition a bit of common sense please, why would anyone with that much assets in an account need outside help. If you can come up with an easy answer on that , that makes business sense in a direct way, than may be, otherwise you are just wasting a large amount of time and your contacts will label you a time waster.
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Post by jon on Dec 2, 2015 12:36:26 GMT 4
Hello congregatio,
Thank you for the suggestions. In fact, euroclear was the first place I checked and I did do a google search. However, I don't have experience with any of this and my boss does not have the funds nor the time to go abroad and check it himself (he's the one who needs collateral for a small govt project). Because of the country I live in, the banks here were also unable to provide any help.
Upon further research into the background of the group that my boss got in touch with, I feel as I'm in a financially twisted episode of the twilight zone. Vast amounts of bullion, secret government treaties, the top 1% of the top 1% controlling everything, and much, much more.
I'm going to just stick with my simple day job and tell my boss to call it a day. At the end of the day, stories are not going to put food on the table.
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Post by Omar on Dec 3, 2015 7:50:32 GMT 4
all junk
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Post by congregatio on Dec 3, 2015 9:13:13 GMT 4
Omar is right, almost all, meaning 99.99% of those papers are fakes or historical and make great wallpaper but thats about it, the real stuff all got recertified and newpapers issued and they are not circulating. Most of the stuff is public so you have to know where to dig it out and the real assets are not dealt via brokers, this is principals only stuff. If your boss has the money and is an institutional entity (QIB) there are things that can be done but I doubt thats being the case. And yes stories are nice but they do not put food on the table.
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Post by anenro on Dec 3, 2015 15:30:40 GMT 4
I fully agree with "congregatio's" comments.
Here is the TIME TABLE.
1. If the deal is real, it will be gone within minutes. 2. If the deal is real, but it carries a lot of risk involved, the deal may take hours and possibly days before it is gone. 3. If the deal is junk and no one wants it, the deal will circulate in cyberspace for weeks and even months. A strong symbol to just run and ignore the so called "offer". 4. If the deal is just a made-up offer, fake and with intent to steal money from the uneducated investor, the offer will be in cyberspace for months and potentially years, sucking in dumb cyberspace brokers into an endless circle of disappointments and broken dreams.
Enjoy the ride.
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Post by leonard78 on Mar 19, 2019 19:19:22 GMT 4
is there anyone in position to confirm mw whether euroclear pages here-in enclosed is real?
I am persuaded so
Your feedback will be appreciated.
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Post by leonard78 on Mar 19, 2019 19:20:18 GMT 4
sorry, but there isn't any chane to attache a file
please contact me privately if someone has familiarity with euroclear pages
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Post by leonard78 on Mar 19, 2019 19:21:38 GMT 4
my mail is leonard.roth.financier@gmail.com
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